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Learning to draw...

Postby Phyrie on Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:34 am

Hi,
I mentioned on another thread that I was taking an art course, and I was asked to expand.

I tried to teach myself watercolour painting a few years ago, and a had bit of success, but not enough to maintain my interest, at that time. However, I still look at things in a "painterly" way, and see potential in scenes where ever I go. I have a great eye, I've just never learned how to translate that "eye" into "art".

I thought that perhaps watercolour was not my medium and decided to look around for something "easier". I found a wonderful deal on a set of 120 Prismacolour colored pencils on eBay, and thought that might have possibilities. So I bought them, along with some watercolour pencils, some coloured pencils that when you add water it makes ink washes, and some artist's markers. I tend to go overboard when something catches my fancy! I already owned some artist's pens, and pen and ink supplies. (I was going to teach myself calligraphy once...)

So, while waiting for my supplies to arrive, I started to do some research on coloured pencil painting. (It's called "painting" since it's the application of pigment onto a surface.) Apparently, it's not just colouring in pictures. *sigh* But I did find it fascinating looking at the art produced by these pencils. Some of them look like photographs they are so life like. The pigments are rich and beautiful, and I wanted to know more. So I've ordered some books and hope to learn a lot.

In the meantime, it was time to face a sad fact. I really don't draw well. I took some classes WAY back in high school, but the "naturally" talented kids got the attention, and us mediocre students were left to flounder on our own. When I took a watercolour course at the local college as an adult, I learned you don't neccessarily need good drawing skills, but it certainly helps. I think part of the reason I left watercolour may have been that I didn't have good quality paints, but I think my lack of drawing skill contributed, as well. I'm the kind of girl that likes to be able to do things well, fairly quickly. I don't mind a sharp learning curve, as long as it's short! Instant gratification is the best kind!

So, I recieved my coloured pencils, and I jumped right in. I decided to try a picture for my granddaughter's bedroom wall. Art for her purple bedroom was on her Christmas list (she's 11) so I thought I could do a flower, and try out my new pencils. I will post a picture of it, and you can (kindly?) let me know what you think.

I am still left with the drawing lack, though. So, I did some more research, and decided that Betty Edwards' "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" sounded like a good course for me. I bought the 1998 revised version, as well as the 2002 workbook, and have just started on it. The reviews of the course are amazing, and I hope that I can get some basics in place before I venture too far into coloured art. Although all those crayons, coloured pencils, tubes of paint and markers sure look inviting!

The fact that I love to get new things in the mail is a total bonus! I'm having a great time. Kiba, not so much. He resents the time I spent at my drawing table, especially since we have this bizarre, cold, white stuff laying on the ground. I'm not sure what it is, but it's cold!

I'm going upload a picture of a tree in my backyard. Maybe one of you smart folks out there can tell us what that weird, white stuff is. It seems to be everywhere!

Also, I'm sending a pic of my very first exercise in coloured pencil. The reference photo is on the right, with my effort on left.

Last, a pic of my granddaughter's purple flower. The camera does something to it, and not at all in a good way; the colours are much smoother than they appear in the pic, but you get the idea.

So that's where I am, at the moment. Learning how to draw, and aching to be able to to put good use to all these lovely materials. I'll keep you informed if things go well. If they don't, I'm much more likely to fade away, tail between my legs.

Phyrie
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby CDAartlady on Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:32 pm

Looks like your off to a great start very nice work :)

A tip for you : a great practice is to draw upside down that way you are drawing what you see vs what you think you see:)

If I could recommend any book and I have tons its would be Mike Sibleys drawing from line to life.
Art Pappa is also a great forum it has beginners and professionals alike & will give you lots of help and feedback the atmosphere is just like this board.
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Deerie me on Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:56 pm

You're doing great. Keep it up. I would maybe add a little more contrast on your lighted areas and shaded areas of your irises but only if I'm being particularly picky. I think they're great.
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Phyrie on Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:10 pm

Thanks for the comments.
Loki's Mom, I know what you mean. The picture is actually much darker where it should be. In the background, too. I had an overhead lamp on the picture and I think that washed out some of the colour. I tried different lighting settings but I couldn't get one that reproduced the picture well at all. Maybe only daylight, outside. But as it's snowy and freakin' cold, I'm not going out there!

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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Deerie me on Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:24 pm

Phyrie wrote: Maybe only daylight, outside. But as it's snowy and freakin' cold, I'm not going out there!

Phyrie


But you have to suffer for your art :lol: :wink:
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Oliver & Henry's Mum on Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:34 pm

Buck up Phyrie...you're a Canadian!!! j/k!!! I think your art is wonderful. My mother is an artist and mostly in water colour. She took courses at an adult learning centre in Florida (she's there for the winter) and did very well. I thought your Iris was great as I could tell it was an Iris! I can barely draw a box. If you love art, and it gives you pleasure, do it for yourself and enjoy it. I admire anyone who can fill a blank space with a lovely image.

Tracy, I think your art is amazing, as you know. You have such an eye for living creatures which requires skeletal and muscular knowledge.

Keep up the good work Phyrie and the white stuff is snow!!! We have huge snow banks from the recent storm last night so be grateful you only have a "dusting" :)
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Sadie G on Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:56 pm

I think you did a very good job, and most of all your grandaughter will treasure this forever because you make it for her!!

My SIL learned to paint from lessons on HGTV several years back and she does amazing stuff now. Keep at it you will get better and better with each try. Way to go, good job!!
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby kian on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:13 pm

What fun, Great Job! That's an interesting tip CDArtLady, I'll have to try it with my pencil drawings. I love to paint with oils, that is relaxing to me when I have the time.
That white stuff on your tree looks familiar, I think I have some of that to!
This is what makes this forum fun, doesn't have to be all dog stuff! Can't wait to see more of your pictures. What mediums do others use?

Keep it up Phyrie ;)
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Deerie me on Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:27 am

kian wrote:What fun, Great Job! That's an interesting tip CDArtLady, I'll have to try it with my pencil drawings. I love to paint with oils, that is relaxing to me when I have the time.
That white stuff on your tree looks familiar, I think I have some of that to!
This is what makes this forum fun, doesn't have to be all dog stuff! Can't wait to see more of your pictures. What mediums do others use?

Keep it up Phyrie ;)


I use acrylics for my big stuff. I also pastels and watercolours for smaller stuff.The dogs on the other thread were pastels as is my Loki avatar. I keep a sketch book in my handbag because you never know when you might come across something which needs drawing. I used to use oils for my large stuff but as they got larger it got too expensive and also they dry too slowly for my frantic style.
Thanks for starting this thread Phyrie. I love talking about art almost as much as I love talking about dogs.
I started a topic a while ago for people to put their art on. Did you get to see it?
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Doggymommy on Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:20 am

I think you are doing great!!!!!
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby CDAartlady on Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:14 am

I do mainly graphite & coal. but I have been dabbling with color. I also do a bit of woodburning and I turn pens and bottle stoppers.
I havn't done any for a year ,Lokis mum has been trying to get my butt in gear but im a bad girl :oops:
this is one of the last ones I did over a year ago
I call it all but the kitchen sink I used tons of mediums for it
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Also here is a side by side of what difference a few years & practice does the one on the right was done a few years ago

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For those of you that like color pencil I learned a neat idea from an artist on the forum I mentioned she does drawings on drafting film you have to use the softer pencils its a lot of fun.
Like Loki's mum I enjoy talking about and seeing other peoples artwork so keep em coming :!:
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby issa on Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:08 pm

Such talents you guys have! keep up the good work and let's see some more!
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby kian on Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:27 pm

Tracy and CDartlady I love your art, amazing! Tracy I wanted to show my hubby what a deerhound looks today and I saw you had a website. Your art is beautiful! CDartlady, wow what detail. I'll show a couple of mine, but mine is is so amatuer compared to both of yours! BTW my hubby loved Loki! He said he never saw one before, I'm sure I haven't either. Thanks for answering the lifespan question, I was curious.
Both of these are oil, when I did the cowboy my husband wanted me to make it look like is grandpa. I orignally was going to make him a tall skinny cowboy like my husband!

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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Deerie me on Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:43 pm

I love the depth you've got to the mountain.
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Re: Learning to draw...

Postby Oliver & Henry's Mum on Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:46 pm

I enjoy seeing everyone's art :) Wonderful !
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