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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Oliveramy on Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:57 pm

Thanks for the info! Although I've had her for quite some time, I'm still learning more and more about this spectacular breed.
Maybe she's not really a mini after all! For some reason, this makes me happy! haha!
I do believe her parents worked. They did have cattle, sheep, goats, and horses on the farm. I'm pretty sure the farmer mentioned something along the lines of the female following him around the farm all day wanting nothing to do with anything other than working, but then again, I was only 10 at the time and there were so many PUPPIES to play with!
They kept the runt, a blue merle male with pieball eyes and said something about training him. I wanted him, he was the most interesting looking pup out of the litter aside from my Bonnie.
I had heard the build of a working Aussie was different from a show Aussie but never thought much into it. She is pretty short but very stocky. After I shaved her I was surprised at how thick her ribcage was. I had always thought she was just poofy and fat from too many treats.
When we got her, we always knew there was no way she would be show quality. She had the wrong build for it. I wish now we had taken her to a farm every now and then to herd some duck or sheep when she was pup, but I think she was satisfied with herding the neighbors' dogs from behind the fence and chasing squirrels up trees all day.

She's always been pretty thick, long coated. She is just now growing back into her coat after being shaved 3 months ago. Just in time too, its starting to get a little chilly down here.

Funny story: While visiting a pet store a month ago with Bonnie a young couple came up to me asking about her. I told them she was an Aussie and they perked up. They commented, first, on her size, of course, and second on if they shed. I had to laugh! I said absolutely! They then told me they had just gotten an aussie puppy and were worried about shed in the house. They then asked if that was the reason I shaved her, I quickly advised against it unless absolute need be. The lady walked away and brought back a brush to ask me about. It was about a 2" long pad with a 4" handle. I laughed again and pointed out a large wooden handled brush and told them their puppy is going to get big and really furry and they will need a sturdy, large brush. And to brush twice to three times a week at the least to avoid as much shedding as possible.

Oh, the joys of getting a breed and knowing nothing about it! Haha! Good thing I was there to save them extra trips to the store!
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby pawsforthought on Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:06 pm

Wow Amy! We did tons of research into Aussies before getting one lol. And we spoke at length with the breeder and met her dogs. Our breeder brushes her dog Kane, my boys' dad three or four times a week, and it can take her up to three hours each time, depending on whether he is moulting at the time or not. If you get an Aussie, particularly a merle (they seem to have a colour to show up on EVERY colour you wear, or every carpet colour) you need to be prepared for lots of grooming :mrgreen: I quite like grooming Monty and Woody, it's relaxing and they enjoy it too :)

We have show-bred Aussies and they ARE a lot wider and broader than working Aussies, as is the norm with quite a few breeds I think. It's particularly noticeable when you put one of them next to my grandparents' Border Collie, Holly, because some Aussies can look quite Collie-ish I think:

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I know you can EASILY tell Holly is a BC, but just wanted to show his wideness in relation to BC's so you can see how he is rather different looking to Bonnie lol

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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Oliveramy on Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:50 pm

Wow, he does look a lot thicker and larger than Bonnie. Bonnie also has no visible tan/red on her like your boy here, which is the typical blue merle coloration.

My mom did plenty of research before we got Bonnie. Being 10, I just wanted a dog! Haha!
As far as Aussies looking like collies, that's because they are collie-type dogs. They have the gene that makes it unsafe to give them ivermectin (common in Collies,) which is the main ingredient in most heartworm prevention. Bonnie gets Sentinel, which is ivermectin free, but twice as expensive as Heartgaurd or Frontline.

Bonnie gets brushed almost every day now that she is indoors. Poor thing didn't get much attention back home while I was in college so she ended up with mats, which is why she's short haired now. I love brushing her and she loves the attention, especially the treat she gets after! She hates baths and having her nails clipped. If its not in her water dish and not rain, she's pretty much terrified of it! And she just hates her feet being touched, which makes it super easy to get her hyper and ready to play. Just tug on her feet for a second and she's hyper and running around the place!
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Deerie me on Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:03 pm

Amy, she doesn't look anything like a sheltie. Then again my deerhounds are mistaken for Irish wolfhounds, greyhounds, lurchers, even elkhounds.

I got the impression that aussies were quite common in the States as so many people on the DP own them.
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Oliveramy on Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:16 am

They're common enough. But not one of the popular breeds. They're known by dog savvy people, but that's about all.
I had someone call her a sheltie and I had someone call her a miniature collie (aka, sheltie. but they said mini collie) So it depends on who you encounter.
I'm all the time trying to find Aussie related things and its really difficult to find.
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Sadie G on Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:32 am

I can only speak for the area I'm from, Indiana. Aussie's are pretty common here, but the Mini-Aussie like Allie are very rare.
I wanted a mini before we found Sadie and the only place I could find them was in the western states. If only I had know Kian then :mrgreen: , but I wouldn't give Sadie up for anything now!
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Madi P on Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:15 am

beautiful dogs pawsforthought ! my pup has a reallly really wide rib cage, it makes her look fat! :) would this make her more of the show aussie breed? but of course she is a mix and a stray and not bred for any purpose so... who knows
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby lynners on Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:16 am

Aussies and ACDs are one of the most surrendered breeds of dogs. We are contacted every single day by shelters and there is always at least one Aussie/ACD in their list. We are also contacted several times a month by families wishing to rehome their Aussie/ACD. They are not a breed for everyone (especially ACDs - who can be described as scrappy bitey heads!). In the right home, however, they can make amazing companions.
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby kian on Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:01 pm

Kas you described Ice perfectly! He comes from both show and working lines and is the most happy go lucky guy in the world. Allie on the other hand, is more reserved but with SAR has come a long way to overcome that.

Lynners it is sad that such a breed is taken in by owners who have no clue. That's why I choose to specialize in herding breeds, there is too much surrendered by owners not knowing what they are getting into. ACD's are definitely NOT for everyone and NOT for the novice dog owner. I have taken heat about that from ACD's owners, but I stand by my experience with them. The over breeding of Aussies for thier color has caused behaviour issues, that is why I strongly suggest a reputable breeder who breeds for temperament, Ice and Allie are the prime examples of that.

Where we moved from both breeds are very common and most owned by farmers who understand the breeds. When I worked at the Humane Society the number one breed surrendered was the Golden of all breeds.
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Oliveramy on Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:38 pm

I think the reason Goldens are surrendered a lot is people see movies like Air Bud and Homeward Bound and see an awesomely trained, sweet, smart, and beautiful dog and want one just like that. What they don't realize is they are hyperactive, large, working breeds that need exercise and consistent training.

They are very easy to train and eager to please, but a lot of people just assume a dog will come already trained, sweet, and calm because that is what they see.

That's also true with any dog breed. I just see it more with Labs and Goldens since they are two of the most popular family pets, at least in the states.
(or maybe its not anymore and I'm still stuck in the 90s. I tend to see more Pitts and Chihuahuas out walking more than any other breed-or rather the chihuahuas are in baby strollers (I'm not kidding)
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Sadie G on Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:35 am

Its a shame about any breed being surrendered, but the Golden surprises me. We have a golden next door that is probably the biggest sweetheart of a dog you would ever want to meet. He is a gentle giant. ALTHOUGH, and I say this laughing and very lovingly :lol: , in his younger days he could knock me down with his boisterous ways :mrgreen: . But what a loving dog.

I had to laugh at the chihuahua's in the baby strollers! I've seen a few of those too :shock: . I guess they aren't just in Hollywood anymore.

I do have to say I love keeping up with all of the Aussie's in this forum. Most of you know I had an aussie/blue heeler mix for 15 years. He was the best dog! When I couldn't find an aussie or aussie mix (although I STILL wonder what happened to Elvis in Ohio - a little cutie on Petfinder!) I started looking at BC's and found Sadie. She is a joy!
After we adopted her I saw ALL kinds of aussie's listed, in the papers and online. Maybe it was just meant to be with Miss Sadie :mrgreen:
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby mary in wonderland on Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:54 am

I just thought I'd drop in here and give a little bit of info on Cara and of course an update. ;) I have NO idea how my gramma found the litter but she did, Cara does not come from fancy lines but rather two dogs who worked their hearts out everyday on a cattle farm. Her parents were both wonderful examples of aussies in temperament and structure, the old saying form follows function comes to mind. Her mom was a black bi and her dad was a red bi, none of the puppies in her litter were nbt and all of them were docked at two days old (encase anyone is concerned, the dock was done at a vets office by a professional not an at home with a rubberband job). My gramma took me to pick her up at 8 weeks old and after talking with her breeder about what I wanted, she is the puppy that was recommended (fine by me, I'm a sucker for red dogs). We brought her home and she's been an absolute joy since then.

She's a confident, smart, biddable, velcro puppy. I take her out on the 50 ft. long line and while she does get the zoomies most of the time she prefers to stay within five feet from me. One of her favorite games to play is hide and seek (although this can be hard to do with a puppy who wants to follow you everywhere :P ) So normally it goes something like, throw a toy and get her distracted then run like heck and hide. She is an exceptionally good seeker. :lol:

In the last few days she must have gone through a growth spurt because I woke up one morning and she was visibly bigger. :lol: She is an absolute dream though, housebreaking has been super easy for her, recall is going fantastic, and she's picking up on the basics quickly. Right now our biggest issue with her is a tendency to nip heels (to be expected from a puppy from working stock dogs), but she's progressing nicely with a vocal 'interruption' followed by redirecting to a toy and then praise like crazy for her chomping onto the toy. lol

At nine months she'll be going to be instinct tested and assuming everything goes well (which it definitely should based on the herding tendencies she's already showing) she'll be starting training for stockwork at nine months as well. :) She really is everything I wanted, she's got a ton of drive but a pretty good 'off switch' for a puppy, she's smart, she's a velcro dog, and in my mind she's just perfect (of course I could possibly be a bit biased there :lol: :mrgreen: )

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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby princelover on Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:32 am

My goodness, Cara has grown considerably and is just beautiful. It seems only last week she was a tiny puppy.
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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby CS&Me on Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:54 pm

Hi! I'm CS&Me (Named after my current dog's Name and my dog that I used to have) and I'm a lover of Aussies! And it's so awesome to see Aussies of all shapes, sizes, and colors! Soon I might be able to discuss some aussie stuff with you guys (If I end up getting one which I probably will) but anyways, nice to meet you guys!

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Re: Australian Shepherds

Postby Oliver & Henry's Mum on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:06 pm

Mary, that's wonderful that Cara is doing so well. She certainly is a cutie.

How is she making out with Mina? Are they friends yet? I know Upendi likes her, but how are the three of them together?

I hope it's blissful chaos. :wink: :mrgreen:
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